The picture regarding our creation/evolution is not clear. The samples, fossils found somewhere on Earth, are not
enough to reconstruct the picture, sampling rate is far below the Nyquist freguency.
It is certain that our bodies and genetic material had followed a certain path. But it is not possible to claim no outer intervaention had played a role
to shape our final form on the way.
It is not very easy to show that we have no spirit embedded somewhere in our bodies, probably within the skull or within the torax. It is certainly not possible to initiate an ape and make it more sensitive to the outer world.
Making comparison of creationism and evolution we see both have shortcomings.
-Hymen is not explainable.
-Animals seem to keep the program they are born with. No ape turned out to be an human within the pretty well known last 7000 years.
-Repetitions in history are hard to explain.
-The to the outer Universe open structure of our brains is hard to explain.
-Self extinction we are now confronted with is very hard to explain.
-A good deal of species are now extinct, none were able to manage any evolution.
THE CREATIONISM and INTELLIGENT DESIGN
The Holy Books contain only fairy tales regarding our creation. They do not give any details. Though the Quran says
our Creator knows the science of creation, it does not give any details either.
The dates we obtain via their interpretation do contradict our findings and are almost unbelievable. As a consequence our findings deport us from our
In the happy medium between creationism and evolution there could be the Intelligent Design. For the time being it is in between but not an happy
medium. Both extremes are against it.
Intelligent design may include continuing interaction or may not. Intelligent design may include a supernatural being that is omnipresent, omnipotent
and created the Universe as a whole or not. Depending on our includeds we happen to adopt deism or pantheism.
Deism may be self consistent but an infinity is something that includes everything. It can not be created because it is not possible to create it from
inside and it is not possible to be in a place outside of it.
EVENTS and INTERPRETATIONS
We are supposed to place the pieces of the jig-saw puzzle correctly.
Considering 5000 B.C. on timeline, we may say we have no problems. They may be put wherever we want. They do not contribute much to the totality of the
picture. Their clues conduct only that we have our prototypes.
The problem is to place the pieces after agriculture and script, 5000 B.C. correctly.
If this can be done correctly, the whole picture will be attained At the least to decide among creationism, evolution and intelligent design.
The oldest fossils found conduct at the most that they are milestones of our bodies and gene pool. They do not say
much about our spirits.
That they were stronger than us is also mentioned in Quran.
The oldest image of a star pattern, that of the famous constellation of Orion is quite interesting. The stars on it are not to be seen. It may as well
be something else.
Carbon dating is quite accurate. Its age should be around 35 thousand years.
It certainly reflects human abilities and if it is done referring to Orion it is certainly much beyond.
From the boat of Noah we have nothing back. The flood seems to have no trace.
It must have happened around 10 thousand B.C. It should be local. At this date almost whole of the World was occupied by humans.
A couple from each animal should be restricted to the domestic ones.
There are many related verses distributed in Quran and a special "Nuh (Noah) Sura". It is the 71. Surah and we have mentioned before that 71/16 says the
Sun is a light source and the Moon is only (reflected) light.
71/23 is also quite interesting. It mentions 5 deities: Wadd, Suwa', Yaghuth, Ya'uq, Nasr. The first two (Veda and Shiva) and the last 3 are grouped.
Both grouping and naming seems to be done correctly. Since the first 2 are not arabic deities , their names were very probably not known at the time, on the Arabic
FROM 5000 B.C. TILL TODAY
After some 95 thousand years as hunter-gatherers, with the beginning of the 5th millenia B.C., a couple of changes are
observed in human life and the foundations of modern civilizations happen to emerge. Agriculture, mainly an human activity, may have begonnen a little bit earlier.
Script is an important developement. Neither free time nor need is enough to explain its emergence; hunter-gatherers had also free time in winters and it
was certainly a need for every human society. The Quran says it has been taught by the Creator.
The practice of magic seems to be common in prehistoric societies. It may have begun earlier but it certainly seems to have gained weight within the
beginnings of the considered period. We may deduce this from what we know about old Babylon- ians, Chaldeans and Egyptians.
Zoroaster the first is said to have been among us around 5000 B.C. The place is, with a pretty high probability, western Iran, may as well be Babylon.
We have 3 different calendars beginning with approximately this date:
Julian (4713 B.C.) ,
Assyrian ( 4750 BC, the date of the first temple at Ashur) ,
and masonic (4713 B.C. ...).
3 sciences emerge: Medicine, geometry and astronomy.
As for Hermes Trismegistus hearsay refers to an earlier date. He is said to have spoken to the Creator in a 9-story building. The only building(s) possibly
referred may be the Great Pyramid and probably Tower of Babylon. Both seem to be dated chronogically later, This should also be the case, science is necessary to build a 9-storey
We could go on beyond the critical velocity and enter into a much higher level orbit but we have not been able to. Some factors may be cited among the
Teachings were not public but hermetic.
Style was deductive.
Wars and especially the Abrahamic religions.
Today's masonry is founded in the 17th Century and denies any prior root. It has certainly its roots somewhere in the mentioned period as given
in here and the reference cited here.
We rather adopt the view that masonry is older having a date given by its calendar and it changed within time. One of the most important changes was done
THE JIG-SAW PUZZLE, FIRST TRIALS
If we are created our Creator has waited and worked on us for some 4 billion years. Spent are 4 billion years for testing of an animal called
human whose life has lasted for about 100 000 years. This has many implications and one of the most importants is that things are done via science and not via sorcery. Strict
omnipotency is not there.
Our long lasting peperatory school period gives clues that some kind of religion has been taught to us at the very begin- nings. That we may not
deduce from the so called "early star pattern", but the Indian's "Great Soul" concept has , to me, this indication.
After a relatively long testing oh human behavior within the "first circle" a test of it under more developed conditions was due. For the change
of orbital an extra energy was needed. Candidates of sorce of this (spiritual) energy are Enoch, Zoroaster, Hermes and Fallen Angels.
Enoch seems to be a myth if taken as depicted today. He is said to have lived before Noah. There seems to be no remains from Atlantis, Mu and him.
The old inhabitants of the new continent seem to have used two paths (Bering Strait and Atlantic Ocean), but the Atlantis is not the only choice for the second of them.
Even if it were it would not mean much, it seems to have no impact on our change of orbital.
Enoch is mentioned in the Bible in Genesis 6/1-7 : The Sons of God were sent down to teach mankind truth and justice; and
for three hundred years did indeed teach Cain's son Enoch all the secrets of Heaven and Earth. Such a teaching may have occured before Noah but the phrase "Sons of God" is not
to be strictly taken.
If we also do the same with "Enoch" , generalize it as the children of Adam and take the names given in Quran, Harut and Marut (Quran 2/102), as the "Sons
of God" we only need and additional step to have the puzzle almost solved:
To assume that HARUT and MARUT, HERMES , and ZOROASTER are the SAME .
Let us first ask ourselves the plausibility of our assumptions; cite the supports:
a. Hermes may be derived from Harut and Marut. Local pronounciation is Haroo(h) and Maroo(h).
b. The names do still exist in Armenian language Harutyun meaning genesis.
c. Dr. Harutyun Marutyan, an Armenian scholar from Erivan confirms : "Also, according to Indian mythology, there were god-brothers of wind --
Harut and Marut. " .
d. The images we have repeatingly given in this page supports this view.
e. The place of their tachings is given as Babylon in Quran and it is said to be derived from "Babylom" which is again said to be derived from
bab-i-ilm that may be interpreted as "Gate of Gnossis" or "Gate of Elohim". The Mohammad could hardly know this.
f. That their teachings were sealed, hermetically sealed, is to be seen also by their possible followers; the Sumerian books were really sealed
(James RAVEN, The Lost Libraries, ISBN 975-271-174-X). The Mohammad could hardly know this.
g. For these to be true, an older Babylon as old as the first temple at Ashur, under the ruins we have found should exist. Such a guess is
assessed to be probable by the archaeologist. We have to search for it.
What we claim means that we assume two angels or aliens came to the Earth at about 4800 B.C. They taught us script, medicine astronomy etc.
The sealed part of their teachings was kept as or gave later birth to masonry.
The open part lived and changed in time as Zoroastrianism. This explains the similarities of masonry and zoroastrianism as well as similarity of
monotheistic religions and zoroastrianism.
They indicated Orion as the (place we have been created, the support of) the Hunter and the Sirius as the Dog Star. They probably said the dog
barks and the Hunter marks, so goes on an exam.
These teaching were somehow learned or inherited by the Sumerians, Accadians and Egyptians. The pyramids were constructed in accord.
Teachings have changed in time. The Nimrod came and he said he was the Great(est) Hunter, the God (wearing hunter clothes and ...).
The answer was Abraham followed by Joseph, Moses, Jesus Christ and Mohammad.
Some thousand years passed and we began the story depicted in Faust by J. W. Goethe.
THESE ARE ALL IN THE PAST, PARTLY FORGOTTEN and NOT TO BE REPEATED, NOT PERSUASIVE even if they are the TRUTH.
We need to check further, try a so called double check by examining the harmony of the predicted and really happened. That we will do in the following